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What percentage of your overall income comes from patient visits versus public speaking versus digital programs, etc.?

Chris Kresser: I don’t really know, Anthony, actually. I’ve never bothered to check exactly. I would just, as a rough estimate, say … Well, before this training program, it was maybe 50/50 clinic versus other stuff. With this training program and I’m not accepting new patients this year because I’m spending a lot of time with this program and developing the content, that has dropped. I would say it’s more like 70/30 now or even maybe 80/20, but historically it’s been pretty close to 50/50, and I’ve actually somewhat intentionally kept it there. I enjoy seeing patients. I want to continue to see patients. It’s somewhat of a struggle for me because I know that where I can probably make the biggest impact is teaching, teaching clinicians like yourselves and writing and things through the blog. But at the same time, I feel like continuing to see patients, first of all, it’s just something I enjoy doing. I feel like it’s a service that I want to provide, that’s it’s something I’m called to do, a vocation. I’ve been on the other side as a patient, so I know how it is to be in those shoes, and I want to provide the kind of help that I wasn’t actually able to find myself as a patient. I enjoy just actually physically sitting and talking to people and being with a patient in that way, so I think this comes down to personal preference, but I can see a time where I step into a more supervisory role at the clinic and supervise other clinicians and have a pretty limited role in patient care simply because I choose to maximize my impact, but I would miss it if I did that. I know I will miss it if I ever do that. So really it’s a personal preference, what you’re drawn to and what percentage of your time you want to spend doing what.

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